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2025 Resumption of International Slave Trade by the Trump Administration

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There is a reasonable argument to be made that the actions taken by the Trump administration to pay El Salvadorian work prisons to take individuals who, in the United States were not convicted of any crime, without due process, would constitute resumption of the international slave trade.

This is substantiated with news sources which explicitly make this claim "By effectively subsidizing and populating a modern penal colony, Trump has reignited the international slave trade. The United States will profit from this deal, too." https://www.thenation.com/article/society/trump-human-trafficking-el-salvador/

I believe that the possibility of adding section to this article to discuss the apparent modern resurrection of international slave sales by the Trump administration merits a new section to this article. -- Anthony S. Castanza (talk) 21:17, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @A. S. Castanza This article is focused on chattel slavery from 1776 to 1865. This issue sounds like it would be a good match for Human trafficking in the United States or possibly Penal labor in the United States. appreciate your interest in contributing to wikipedia. TY! jengod (talk) 21:52, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"This article is about slavery from the founding of the United States in 1776. For the colonial period, see Slavery in the colonial history of the United States. For modern illegal slavery, see Human trafficking in the United States. For modern legal forced labor, see Penal labor in the United States."
That is inconsistent with the description of the article, which does not set a formal end-date for the relevant conduct. The informal end date of 1865 is not for article scope reasons, but purely because that until this administration the United States had ceased trading in slaves. This conduct could be appropriate to the Human Trafficking article, however, that is typically understood to be criminal conduct by non-state actors. The United States government seizing individuals off the street with no legal process, and selling them to a forced labor facility in an independent nation most closely falls under the type of chattel slavery discussed in this article. Furthermore the Penal Labor article is not appropriate as it is scoped to "legal forced labor" - of which selling individuals to a foreign nation is not. Perhaps there is a more appropriate article to discuss this conduct. But so far, I believe that this is, in fact, the most appropriate one. -- Anthony S. Castanza (talk) 20:16, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Northwest ordinance of 1787

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Years ago someone inserted material to the effect that Manasseh Cutler and another man were responsible for the Northwest Ordinance of 1787. The extensive scholarly literature is ignored. Historians have been puzzled why the southern slaveholders who controlled the Continental Congress almost unanimously passed a provision to outlaw slavery in the Northwest Territory. (There was one negative vote, by a New Yorker.) Scholars are pretty well agreed with [[Ray Allen Billington]] ''Westward expansion: history of the American frontier''. 4th edition 1974 page 211 that "Cutler  and his fellow land-jobbers had nothing to do with shaping the Ordinance." Rjensen (talk) 05:14, 13 April 2025 (UTC)  [reply]